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I Don’t Like Skyler White, But Probably Not for the Reasons You Think

I Don’t Like Skyler White, But Probably Not for the Reasons You Think

According to a chunk of my Twitter feed, last Sunday night’s episode of Breaking Bad  (“Fifty-One”) would finally make me see the light.  After watching, I’d most certainly side with (or at least feel sorry for) Walter White’s wife, Skyler.

Yeah, that didn’t happen.

Let’s get a few things straight before I continue:

  1. I like Breaking Bad.
  2. I’ve recommended Breaking Bad to family members and friends.
  3. These people have recommended Breaking Bad to others in their lives.
  4. Like most viewers out there, I think Breaking Bad is one of the most well-crafted, well-written, and intense shows on television.
  5. I appreciate that Breaking Bad is shot on 35mm film and that it (noticeably) takes great care with its mise-en-scene and cinematography. (That said, I have grown a bit weary of its use of time-lapse and static points-of-view from inanimate-objects: “Hey, you know what would be cool? Let’s put this camera on the end of a broom and wave it around!”)
  6. To no end, I adore the character Gus Fring. Love him. As folks on social media would declare in hashtag form, Giancarlo Esposito deserves #AllTheAwards.
  7. Like so much contemporary (and classical) television and film, Breaking Bad has major problems with gender representation, particularly its female characters (hence, this post). And in case you’ve not noticed, there’s also a whole lotta middle-aged male angst going on here. Clichéd.
  8. Finally and perhaps most significantly, for this post anyway, just because I dislike Skyler White does not mean I (currently) side with or like or approve of or identify with her now- ridiculously arrogant, abusive, murderous, meth-making husband, Walter. Contrary to what social media would have you believe (e.g., the image below is making its rounds), it doesn’t have to be an either/or situation here, people. Viewers may dislike both characters. (For the record, Mr. Pinkman’s always been my man.)

Why Do Viewers Hate Skyler?

In his recent post “Skyler Is Such a Bitch!” and Other Unfair Breaking Bad Observations,” Steven Silver attempts to vindicate Skyler White. Alyssa Rosenberg does the same in “Skyler White and Breaking Bad: Stop Hating TV Wives.” A quick scroll through Twitter, Breaking Bad message boards, and other social media outlets indicates that Silver and Rosenberg have ample reason for writing such defenses. In short, people hate them some Skyler White, and they — men and women, but mostly lots of men — will vocalize that hostility freely and often.

These declarations about the character range from relatively mild (“Skyler White is the worst“) to creepily violent (“I wanna smash Skyler in the face with a bat over and over and over and overrrrrr“), and from downright evil (“I hate you so much just drown yourself in the pool already“) to horribly misogynistic (“Skyler needs to get fucked by mister white so she can stop being so uptight“). Additionally, you won’t have to dig too deep to find a solid number of Breaking Bad fans offering their thoughts on the character’s alleged weight-gain and facelift, this, of course, a direct reflection on poor Anna Gunn (who’s a fine actress, btw). Gunn addresses some of these sexist reactions an interview for Rolling Stone.

According to Steven Silver, this so-called “Skyler-is-a-bitch” brigade mostly derives from the character’s

  • sleeping with her former boss while separated from Walt, and then telling him about it
  • dropping her disgust with Walt’s choice to become a drug dealer — as well as her plans to divorce him — and abruptly deciding to cooperate with him
  • adopting a hectoring and emasculating tone towards Walt at various times

Here’s the kicker. None of these instances explains my distaste for the character of Skyler White. So if these are the reasons most anti-Skyler viewers cite, I’m very much in the minority.

Let me take the first bullet point above as an example: people despise Skyler for sleeping with Ted. On the contrary, this storyline was one of the few times during the series (thus far) I’ve actually rooted for Skyler White — with gusto, I might add. When she acted on her feelings for Ted Beneke and subsequently “cheated on” her husband (to be fair, she and Walt were separated), it gave me some hope that the woman had chutzpah, a mind of her own, a rebellious spirit, desire. Virtually none of these attributes, if I recall correctly, were quite this present in her before. I certainly don’t condone adultery, but inside, I was cheering for the girl to get her some — and more crucially perhaps, to be an active, non-traditional female character rather than a passive, suffering one. So, no, it wasn’t Skyler’s act of infidelity or her later admittance of such to Walt that made me feel this way.

If You Don’t Dislike Skyler for These Reasons, Then Why?

So what is my beef with the character? Well, Skyler and I never quite jelled. Her traditional role as mother/protector and then as reluctant accomplice and later as trapped victim (“All I can do is wait, [...] hold on, bide my time, and wait”) aren’t really my cup of tea. Meg from Feminist, Unplugged (whose post proper is actually devoted to defending Skyler White) nicely sums up the show’s conventional gender roles:

[Skyler, as Walt Jr.'s and Holly's mother,] is the one who must be responsible for their well-being. The idea is supported by much more than traditional stereotypes: Walt has, since early season 3, treated the children more like pawns, buying Walter Jr.’s affection with flashy sports cars and cuddling with the baby in order to play the part of a good father for the police (and, at times, the audience). In a way, the White family dynamics are gender roles taken to their extreme: Walt has taken his role as the provider and warped it, so that he believes his job as a meth chef is for his children’s benefit; meanwhile, Skyler keeps the traditional female role of protector, all while knowing that her children’s father is most likely the biggest danger.

large size brkbd 2 img 1 h 300x168 I Dont Like Skyler White, But Probably Not for the Reasons You ThinkBut I think my dissatisfaction with the character began with the Season 2 premiere (“Seven Thirty-Seven”). Wearing an avocado mask, Skyler asks Walt, anxious from his run-in with Tuco, if he’d like some chicken. In a matter of seconds, avocado and chicken turn into rape, or as some argue, a near-rape experience (see “Glad-to-Be-Alive Sex“).

This disturbing scene has been referred to as “horrible, violent, ugly sex in the kitchen” (um, that’s not sex) and a sign of Walt’s true powerlessness. Here, I felt for Skyler (as any sane person would, I hope), and I was relieved when she finally yelled, “Stop it!” But afterward, I begin to question her purpose in the overall narrative and intent within her own storyline(s). I wondered, for example,

  • Why the hell is she staying with this man who smelled her, took her from behind, and forced himself upon her? 
  • Further, why did it take her so long to stop his actions? 
  • Excluding Jesse, why does Skyler have to be the primary character on whom Walt exacts his frustrations, sexual and otherwise?
  • Why must she virtually always remain in a passive position (hard to get more passive than semi- doggie-style against a refrigerator)? 
  • Can any “quality TV” showrunner write a female character people will support(Alyssa Rosenberg also contemplates this last question, kinda.)

In brief, this rapey scene and Skyler’s remaining loyal to her rapey husband (initially at least) did not sit well with me. It still doesn’t. While we’re at it, yes, I’m aware that several of these questions lie beyond the scope of “Skyler White” and more with the show’s writer/creator and the media in general; but still, it’s her characterization that magnifies these issues and, thus, renders her problematic to me.

No doubt much has happened between this Season 2 premiere and last night’s episode, some of which positions Skyler in an active, unconventional, non-suffering role: she starts a new job, throws her husband a party, gives birth, learns of Walt’s meth-making, leaves her husband (yes, gumption!), sleeps with her boss (yay!), covers up Walt’s activities with a gambling story, pays for Hank’s medical bills, launders money for/with her husband, buys a car wash, invites Walt back into the house, drives to the Four Corners and debates leaving her husband, returns home “to protect this family from the man who protects this family,” feigns being a dumb blonde accountant for Ted, breaks down in front of her sister (Shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up!), attempts to drown herself all Ophelia-style in the family pool, allows Walt back into her bed, and verbally wishes for his cancer to return.

But it’s this second-to-last occurrence that, I think, brings my aversion to Skyler White full circle. Last week’s episode (“Madrigal”) features one of the most disconcerting shots in the entire series (also in the Top Ten Most Disconcerting, the above-mentioned avocado/chicken scene as well as that turtle and poor Victor’s demise-by-box-cutter). In a nightgown, Skyler is in bed. Walt approaches her and begins to derobe, all clothes. He slides in bed, adjusts his penis, closely spoons his wife, and kisses her on the arms. Although she’s clearly uninterested, Skyler does not recoil. WTF? This seeming act of “pseudo-rape” is indeed, as one blogger puts it, “one of the most uncomfortable moments of the entire series.” A TV Line writer remarks similarly: “Aaaand thank you, Breaking Bad, for the fade to black that spares us a full-on, against-Skyler’s-will sex scene [...] though I’m not sure what’s worse — seeing it or imagining it.”

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Woman, get out of that crazy man’s bed.

At this point, it should be clear that I’ve a very low tolerance for representations of rape and/or forced sex (the same goes for portrayals of animal abuse). But what’s more, I’ve little patience for female characters who choose to remain in said abusive relationships without exacting some sort of revenge or authority over their male oppressors (maybe this is coming to a head in Breaking Bad?). Finally, as mentioned above, I take issue with female characters who function as victims — or prey, as Anna Gunn puts it when describing the set-up for the “I’m a coward” scene depicted in the animated gif below: “It ended up as a dance, with Bryan [Cranston] pursuing me all around the room. It was really like I was trapped animal that was Bryan’s prey.” Yeah, I don’t dig this situation.

Skyler White As Femme Fatale?

In closing, a reviewer from Forbes (Forbes has a TV critic?!) writes about the scene that closes out the episode “Fifty-One”:

Skyler is chain-smoking in the White home, the portrait of a femme fatale straight out of a film noir picture.

No, no, no. Film fatales (at least in classical Hollywood) have power. They have strategies. They are resourceful. They are overpoweringly desirable. They threaten to castrate and devour their male victims. Many have murder on their minds. Little of this holds true for me with regard to Skyler White at this point. That said, Todd VanDerWerff maintains Skyler’s smoking in this scene is one way to hasten the return of Walter’s lung cancer. Interesting. Maybe it is. (It’s not a good plan for her health though.) Nonetheless, if this is true and Skyler is thinking/acting in this manner, then perhaps one day I’ll sing a different tune.

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McEnnen - 28. Dec, 2012 - Reply

I don\’t agree with you at all. I think she should be grateful and supportive of what her husband is doing. Instead she\’s acting like a bitch and goes off sleeping with another man. Seperated or not, there\’s no excuse. Walt has remained loyal to his family while she\’s doing the opposite, trying to tear it apart. I despised the character Skyler even before she slept with her boss. If the rest of the show wasn\’t so awesome I\’d stop watching it because of her character alone. And don\’t try to put a feminist perspective on her actions. Feminism is bullshit. Just another -ism that the world don\’t need. It\’s evil at it\’s finest form, the kind of evil that looks good on paper but ends up excusing all kinds of horrible actions.

Lars - 29. Dec, 2012 - Reply

I actually don\’t find her cowardice a problem. If your husband is a murdering meth kingpin, won\’t you be scared to rebel, fearing that he might kill you as well since he\’s a cold-blooded monster? I used to think women who stuck in abusive relationships should just leave already. But it\’s much easier said than done when they are stripped of their self-esteem and cut off from their friends and emotionally- supportive family members. Her contradiction and complexity make sense to me. She wants to leave but she can\’t. So she needs to bring him down from the inside. However, she\’s also being poisoned by him morally. It sure makes her frustrating, versus the single-mindedness of Walter White.

Chris Maltera - 29. Dec, 2012 - Reply

I don\’t understand why it isn\’t crystal clear why many people (mostly men) don\’t like Skylar. She is extremely bossy, disrespectful (to the point of having sex with another man) and blind to Walt\’s world while he never mistreated her once. The only thing he did is lie, but any reasonable person could understand why he did that. He has done bad things to other people but for Skylar and his family he has shown nothing but immense love.

At the same time Skylar is so self-absorbed she cannot even try to see things from his perspective. No, instead she kicks him out of his own house to live in a lonely apartment while she gets to live in his house with his kids and has sex with someone else. The fact he has to break in in his own house is ridiculous to start with but no, Skylar is shocked when he does that. How could he be so disrespectful to ME?!?!?

Knowing all this, isn\’t it extremely easy to understand why people don\’t like her?

Julie - 30. Dec, 2012 - Reply

For me, it was when he told her he has cancer, and she wants to know how he feels. And it\’s all, \”I need to hear your feelings\” and staging interventions. Jesus. I would sooner die of cancer than live with someone who needs to know where I am every second of the day or can\’t infer for herself some of the possible feelings of a person who is dying of cancer.

Tiffany - 03. Jan, 2013 - Reply

I think it’s unrealistic to assume all raped and domestically abused women have it in them to physically remove themselves from such a situation. In fact that’s one of the few aspects of Skyler’s character I can empathise with.
However likewise, I cannot stand her. She seems to bat between consciously aiding Walt (the money laundering, helping him to think up a fake back story in the gambling, protecting him from Ted’s greed) to casting him as some hideous monster who’s independently wrecked everything. He is, obviously, an issue, but she’s not so sweet either. I think someone willing to commit themselves to crime in one instance but not in another is a massive hypocrite.
That’s my main issue, really – she may be a victim, and her faults may not be anywhere near as bad as her husbands, but she doesn’t take responsibility for anything she does. At least Walt’s cast as a lunatic who quite believably doesn’t see that he’s causing any problems. Skyler’s cast as someone who reflects her own problems onto someone else and denies she ever had anything to do with them. Even half way through the first series, when really Walt hadn’t done anything wrong, she acts superior and authoritarian and never, ever steps out of her own little world. I’m certain there was a conscious effort from the storyboard team to paint her as an unlikable character, at that point.

John - 15. Jan, 2013 - Reply

Though everyone has their own point of view, but you can just look at a persons name and see what view they would hold. Middle aged men would usually be agianst skyler while young females who are somewhat influenced by the renewed wave of feminism and ‘girl power’ would flock to support skylers behaviour. Frankly I find it disgusting that some women will support disloyalty and outright bullshit. If something goes bad you dont go around screwing other people and destroying your own home.

katansi - 29. Jan, 2013 - Reply

You picked the absolute shittiest reason to hate a character.

http://www.domesticabuseshelter.org/InfoDomesticViolence.htm#statistics

Pay attention to #3 and #5. In case you don’t want to click…

“A woman is more likely to be killed by a male partner (or former partner) than any other person.”

“Of the total domestic violence homicides, about 75% of the victims were killed as they attempted to leave the relationship or after the relationship had ended.”

So basically you hate a character for doing something that actually is most likely to help her stay alive and would prefer abused women to “stay strong” and very probably get killed trying to escape. Even for fictional character hate, the way you frame this point of contention for you about her character comes off as shitty and judgy about abuse victims. Maybe you have personal experience, maybe you don’t, maybe if you do you got lucky, but going along with the abuser is a) an act of self-preservation b) pretty normal in the Stockholm syndrome way that a human psyche can behave in and c) the least valid reason to hate this character (and thus judge real women in her situation, eg, in a dangerous, out-of-control, abusive relationship).

That was not feminist or even woman friendly.

Erin - 18. Feb, 2013 - Reply

I agree with most of the points in this article… Personally, though, I like Skyler, and I’d say I don’t have a problem with her refusal to leave/stand up to Walt; I do think she’s doing the best she can under awful circumstances.
The (brilliantly written and acted!) scene in “Fifty-One”, I thought, illustrated quite effectively that she *can’t* out-maneuver him or force him to stop being a danger to his family. The only way to make him stop at this point would be to kill him, and unlike Walt, that’s not a line she’s willing to cross.
Personally I think she’s exhibiting a different kind of courage by staying and pretending their relationship is okay for the sake of Walt Jr. and Holly. Because seriously, if she openly opposed him or went to the police, it would trigger a really horrific fallout for basically their entire family.
Some of the other comments on this page are quite frankly really disturbing. Not to mention ironic, since the arguments against her are basically *exactly* the ones you were refuting in your article.

Kelli Marshall - 19. Feb, 2013 - Reply

“Some of the other comments on this page are quite frankly really disturbing. Not to mention ironic, since the arguments against her are basically *exactly* the ones you were refuting in your article.”

– Agreed. And thank you for reminding others of this. ;) (Also, thanks for reading, Erin.)

Kelly - 21. Feb, 2013 - Reply

I agree with everything you say. Even the “I’m a coward” moment has an unlikely courage to it. Skyler is not a superhero who can magically save herself or her children. Skyler has admitted she is scared of Walt, she has admitted to having no good plan to beat him and yet Skyler is still fighting him the only way she can. I think there’s something very brave about continuing to fight when you know you’re outmatched.

Kelly - 21. Feb, 2013 - Reply

I’m re-submitting this comment as the HTML tag ate my quotation.

It’s interesting to read an anti-Skyler post that is at least has a different reasoning behind it.

“I’ve little patience for female characters who choose to remain in said abusive relationships.”

Yet you say you have always been a fan of Jesse Pinkman, a male character who chose to remain in an abusive relationship with Walter White for most of the show. Why is it you can sympathize with a male character who stays in an abusive relationship but not a female in a similar position? If anything Skyler was shown to be far more defiant than Jesse against Walt’s abusive treatment in S5. In the infamous dinner scene, Skyler is stone faced, refusing to be bullied by Walt while Jesse is nervously trying to appease their tormentor.

I’ll also add that it’s much harder for Skyler to leave than it is for Jesse, though Skyler has at least shown a desire for escape. But if Skyler runs away with baby Holly it’ll mean leaving her sister and her son forever and how could she do that? If Skyler goes to the police it’ll either mean jail, risking her family’s safety, life in witness protection or all of the above. Jesse doesn’t have the same family responsibilities as Skyler. Jesse could have run away with a bag of money long before now. Even now that Jesse is out of the meth game, he isn’t free. He is a broken man living in a lonely house expecting Heisenberg to come and murder him at any moment. I’d say Jesse has become trapped in his victimization and suffering even more than Skyler has over the seasons.

For the record, Jesse and Skyler are my two favourite characters and I’d love to eventually see an alliance between them to combat Walt’s abuse. I don’t blame either of them for being victims. I hope to see them both fighting back but I also have sympathy for them if they feel scared and helpless against Heisenberg.

Kelli Marshall - 21. Feb, 2013 - Reply

Hi, Kelly — while I don’t agree with it all, I like Jesse because of some of the things cited in this post: “Jesse Pinkman: A Lesson in Likeability.” :) Thanks for reading!

Erin - 21. Feb, 2013 - Reply

Good point about Jesse, that he’s staying in an abusive relationship just as much as Skyler is. Their situations do have a lot of parallels.
There is the factor, though, that Jesse doesn’t know half the horrible things that Walt has done to him. He’s still blissfully ignorant…so to speak…about the true depth of Walt’s depravity. Whereas Skyler isn’t remotely fooled anymore by his “family-man” facade. She sees him for the monster he’s become and she is terrified of it.
If Jesse knew about Jane, or Brock, or Mike, he would have turned tail ages ago. I mean, at the end of season 4 he almost shoots Walt in the head over the missing ricin cigarette; he can’t bring himself to pull the trigger, though, because Walt won’t own up, so he couldn’t know for sure. (And WOW! That scene. Talk about riveting drama…)

Also – I too SOOOO want Jesse and Skyler to somehow ally against Walt. (Or at least have a few more scenes together; they have a really interesting dynamic.)
I even have a theory for how an alliance could come about…
[Warning: from here on out I'm just spouting conjecture and wishful thinking. Don't mind me and my overactive brain...]
Okay, so remember the expensive watch Jesse got for Walt as a birthday gift (that scene BROKE my HEART, btw), and later Walt essentially flaunts it to Skyler and says “the man who gave me this wanted to kill me a few weeks ago”. If Jesse ever let it slip to Skyler (don’t know how, but they’ve gotta talk at *some* point, right?) that he gave Walt the watch, she’d undoubtedly want to know why he wanted to kill Walt and why he changed his mind, in which case Jesse would have to explain the situation with the ricin cigarette, and how the poison ended up being Lily of the Valley. In which case Skyler may recall that, oh yeah, didn’t they have a potted Lily of the Valley plant in their back yard…? After which she would discover it missing, which could only mean Walt got rid of it since it was evidence, and one clue would lead to another, and Jesse would undeniably and irrevocably turn against Walt after learning the horrible truth. Possibly enough to want to exact violent revenge, and certainly leading to tragedy for all concerned.
Additionally, Jesse could conceivably end up learning about Mike’s death from Todd (grrr…Todd…), and that blow would be almost as brutal.
The only way I can see him finding out about Jane is if Walter tells him himself. I could also see that happening during an intense final confrontation.
So many possibilities…I’m so excited for the final 8 episodes!

Kelly - 22. Feb, 2013 -

Even without knowing the worst of Walt’s betrayals and manipulations, Jesse’s still been trapped in an abusive relationship. Walt has been verbally cruel, treated Jesse like a servant and has often bullied him into dangerous or traumatizing situations that Jesse didn’t want to go through with (killing Gale, working with Tuco, confronting the Spooges, etc). And the whole partnership began with Walt blackmailing him. Jesse definitely seems more victimized than Skyler to me. The fact that Jesse has been successfully blinded and brainwashed by Walt makes him an even more tragic figure than Skyler who sees what Walt has become, even though she doesn’t know the half of his crimes. Skyler instinctively senses she needs to get her kids away from Walt and that’s without knowing that Walt poisoned a five year old and dissolved a murdered 14 year old in acid.

I really like your theory on how Jesse might find out the truth about the Brock poisoning. I don’t think Skyler has it in her to kill Walt herself but I don’t think she’d stand in the way if Jesse wanted to kill him. I don’t think Jesse has it in him to kill Walt either though, but I’d love them to become allies against Walt in the final act. I can’t wait for the last 8 either!

NickyDalenz - 02. Mar, 2013 - Reply

I realize that this is dated material however, re-watching the series on Netflix my hatred for Skyler was reignited and I had to get my two cents in.

Skyler White is a nosy morally dubious overtly aggressive bitch. I’ve hated her since she ran a reverse trace to find Jesse’s phone number and web page. She “had” no reason to suspect her husband and no right to personally investigate Walters activities.

A key marital cornerstone is trust and from the very beginning she displayed none. She holds Walter to a high set of moral standards that she is not capable of maintaining, but is always there to chastise him for anything she deems to be questionable behavior, however will not even hear any sort of admonishment when she proverbially “pulls a boner”.

When she decided to take up smoking while pregnant and after her devoted husband has been diagnosed with lung cancer I found myself having violent thoughts towards the character.. at one point I prayed that Gus Fring would dispatch her in a manner most gruesome.

She’s just as guilty as Walter albeit his actions more criminal, hers are morally reprehensible. She is an out and out, raggedy mouthy butt hook.

I love Anna Gunn, it takes a phenomenal actor/actress to take a fictional character and bring them to life in a way that can evoke such emotions of hatred and contempt. I vaguely remember her performance on Deadwood, I never thought she could be as convincing as she is in BrBa, they casted the role perfectly as someone I love to hate. As for Skyler White, I can only hope that someone gets sick of her uppity ass and finishes her off in a manner that makes Gustavo’s Death seem tame in comparison.

marrett goran - 21. Mar, 2013 - Reply

I hate skyler the character and Anna Gunn soooo much. i hate her stupid smile. i hate the way her face looks. she has such a stupid look on her face all the time.

Kenny - 14. Apr, 2013 - Reply

Why does no one mention that she slept with a guy who was committing massive fraud AND SHE KNEW ABOUT IT! She asked him what he’s do if the girls found out and he says, “Tell them I was doing it for them.” It’s the exact same thing Walt is doing! Except he’s making money and providing for her. Ted would’ve got caught by the IRS. Why is it okay for Ted but not Walt. This is the biggest reason for me to dislike her. Carmella Soprano knew about Tony’s mob, disliked it, but realized it gave her a great life. Skyler is just a bitch for the sake of being a bitch.

lolstopreading - 01. May, 2013 - Reply

I’m sorry but I stopped reading after you said your man was mr. pinkman, the biggest screw up on tv

skylarisacunt - 01. May, 2013 - Reply

omg someone hit it right on the nail(or w/e) kenny above, I almost stopped watching the show after she slept with ted, that like angers me seriously irl, b/c to think a woman would be so low,

he has life threatening cancer, low income job as a genius, screwed over by colleagues, PUTS HIS LIFE ON THE LINE to create a future for his family, THEN SHE FUCKS ANOTHER GUY whos doing the same thing… I wouldve slit her throat over the salad bowl

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